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eaves.ca: Newspapers’ decline is a sign of democracy, not a symptom of its death

  • Stephane Dubord · 9 months ago
    Simply put: Democracy thrives with participation. The old media isn't participatory, but the new media is based on that very premise. So which one do you think is more important to democracy, if only one model is to survive?

    Seems clear to me!
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    Nice line Stephane.
  • Tish Grier · 9 months ago
    Thanks for this wonderful post! The whole moaning and wailing that's been going on among the journalism community about democracy dying with newspapers has been bugging me for some time, and I couldn't put my finger on just why. You've summed it up quite beautifully.
  • Kim FEraday · 9 months ago
    I half agree with what you're saying. You don't address a critical component of traditional media at its best -- providing quality content that can serve a the content for a broader discussion. Even if there's quality out there it's not easy to find.
  • Lucy · 9 months ago
    But the form doesn't have to be print newspapers to do that. In fact the internet provides more methods for accessing more of the quality as the aggregation method is agnostic. Anyone can present a collection of news items from any original source.
  • Norman Farrell · 9 months ago
    Quality may be hard to find in traditional media or in web content but each of us defines quality in our own quite personal way. In these days of corporate concentration, there are fewer and fewer hard copy options as newspapers from one city to another look ever more like clones. Finding quality on the Internets requires diligence and time but can be done. I am thankful to have so many sources available.

    However, the owners of traditional media are working to reduce choice. Three times this week, my browser reported that the content I wished to view was not available in Canada. By example, someone has decided that I cannot watch clips from Jon Stewart's Daily Show from Comedy Central's website. Instead, I must look for the material at Canada's The Comedy Network.

    Will Canwest Global or Bell Media convince authorities that I shouldn't be reading articles from the NY Times, the WA Post or The Guardian online but should only read them at Canadian websites or in Canadian papers, if they choose to publish those articles?
  • Werner Patels · 9 months ago
    Well, as it turns out there isn't much decline in Canada -- quite to the contrary in fact!

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=...

    and

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/News/Herald+newspa...
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    Hi Werner, thank you for commenting...
    I don't think the first link has much to say that is interesting. Citing the number of Canadians who pick "a" newspaper at least once a week? Almost certainly the majority of which are the free Metros... These are not stats for the industry to seek security in.

    The second piece is also troubling. The 7.3% growth rate in people who look at the newspaper "once a week" includes online growth! Once you break down the numbers the newspaper experienced an actual growth (again in the number of people who looked at the newspaper at least once(!) a week) of 2.86%. This from a city that has experienced one of the fastest growth rates in the country. Moreover, just because someone looked at your newspaper once a week, doesn't mean they paid for the privilege. Indeed, newspapers have been known to give away copies during ratings periods to "boost" their numbers.

    More instructive then asking "did you look at the newspaper at least once this week" is to examine subscription rates. Here the numbers are more bleak for the Herald. According toits own marketing materials they had a subscription base of 126,052 in 2006. Today, wikipedia lists their subscription base as 115,612. That's a decline of 9%. It's also lower than their 2004 numbers of 119,476. These aren't figures that are going to save the industry. My strong suspicion is that even Calgary, this is a business that will struggle.
  • CharlesGYF · 9 months ago
    Newspapers that do quality journalism will continue to survive for some time to come. It's those that do little more than copy and paste from newswires that will die out first.
  • ylld · 9 months ago
    brilliant! thank you for this. i mostly hated (aside from the odd moment of adrenalin) the 10 years i spent in mainstream journalism precisely because of the obligation to uphold the fiction that obediently perpetuating the value systems of our white male editors was critical to society and democracy. and that journalists who did not duplicate what they held to be "news" were considered marginal. the internet was the true vector of free speech for me in my writing trajectory - so i'm happy you've pointed this out amidst all the entitled and angry huffing and puffing of these status quo denizens who are about to go under, en masse, Ivy League education or not.
  • Wendy Tan White · 9 months ago
    I tend to agree with two points in the blog; it can only be better for a broader community to be involved interactively in the issues that really matter to all of us and that new media allows for a more diverse range of views and knowledge to be debated in depth.

    I still believe in market forces and ‘quality will out’ people still look for well written content, healthy debate and expertise, arguably it’s easier for people to ‘vote with their feet’ on the internet and new business models will follow. I’ve been lucky enough to be involved with new media businesses companies like citizen journalist site http://www.demotix.com and peer to peer lending site http://www.zopa.com. Or a twist on David's comparison, http://www.demotix.com is to democracy what http://www.zopa.com is to capitalism, the new order.
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    Wendy, I completely agree. I think there will still be people earning their keep as journalists for a good long time. They just probably won't be doing it for print newspapers. And, I think there will always be a market for those who write quality material, it will just be in a variety of business models (I, for example, don't make money from blogging, but I do from public speaking at conferences and for companies, an activity this blog very much supports).
    More importantly, congratulations on being an entrepreneur not becoming a priest (like Taylor and I did for a little bit with the Missing the Link piece).
  • Marine · 9 months ago
    Very right.
    About : “If print newspapers disappear, it will be a fundamental threat to our democracy.” : as if democracy had waited newspapers to start or even flourish in the world... really. It's about exchanging ideas (agora, forum, age of enlightenment and first encylopedias, newspapers - as a means to make ideas circulate) not about printing news.
    + Surely journalists and journalism will not end with newspapers. Still I am uneasy at how they seem to believe that they have been around since forever.
  • Scott · 9 months ago
    Look, there is no magic formula that describes how news is going to be distributed; People just do the best they can with the tools they have. There are benefits and drawbacks to each model, but each of them is fundmentally flawed.
    Up to now, newspapers/TV/ wire services were the best we could manage. That's changing, and that's good.
    But it's not perfect.
    When the last newspaper folds, it's going to take a class of information gathering with it. The new models simply will not support news gathering of the scope that the old ones did. Look for a lot more noise and nonsense in your daily news feed without those "authoritarian" and un-democratic gatekeepers on the job.
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    "new models will not support news gathering of the scope that the old ones did"
    Scott - just cause you haven't imagined it, doesn't mean it won't come to exist.

    and
    "look for a lot more noise and nonsense in your daily news feed without those "authoritarian" and un-democratic gatekeepers on the job."
    I've found that humans are pretty good at cutting out the noise. I don't buy "US" magazine or subscribe to news feeds that are junk...

    These feels like two pretty linear quotes about a chaotic environment.
  • Scott · 9 months ago
    What sounds linear to me is assuming that something new is going to be 100 percent better.
    Take TV news versus print, for example. TV is more immediate than print, it's more engaging and it's easier to digest -- those are all good things. But it tends to be ankle deep, on balance, and more emotional. That's not a slap on broadcast, just recognizing inherent flaws.
    We know professional journalism has had plenty of flaws, but news without news professionals will put the onus on readers to discern what is actual information and what isn't. That's good thing, and I'm sure people are up to it, but don't deny that it has its drawbacks. If want some concrete examples, go pick up Farhad Manjoo's "True Enough."

    Citizen journalism sounds great, but it has flaws. Don't ignore them now, when its early. Figure out what those flaws are while we can still fix them.
  • Karen · 9 months ago
    So....which of you brilliant Gen Y bloggers is going to sit at local park board meetings to find out how they are spending your tax money? Just wondering.

    I don't care whether newspapers live or die. It's just a medium. (Yes, the singular of "media.") It may well be it's an outdated medium. It's certainly a wasteful, expensive and environmentally harmful medium.

    However, when newspapers die (so what? good riddance) the services that newspapers have traditionally supplied - such as serving as watchdogs for even the smallest municipalities, taxing bodies and so on - remain necessary to a functioning democracy. What happens when governments make decisions with no one watching?

    And it's tedious, people. Maybe some of you are experienced with this. Sitting through three-hour meeting of county commissioners, poring through stacks of facts and figures, following up to ask questions, finding alternate points of view - this is time consuming and not a whole lot of fun. When there are no reporters at these meetings, who will do this? Do you think it is no longer necessary? Will citizen journalists spend hours - unpaid - going line by line over the police board's budget?

    It's not all about national politics. Yeah, that's exactly. It's sexy. But only a tiny percentage of reporters cover national politics. Only a small percentage work in major cities. The majority are in small cities and tiny towns across the country. When the newspaper dies in these small cities and towns, will bloggers attend all the board meetings? Investigate the documents? Will unpaid citizen journalists do it? Maybe. Maybe this will be the case. I don't see anyone addressing this issue.

    And no, this stuff doesn't have to be published *on paper*. It isn't the publication process CJR was talking about. It isn't the medium. It's the reporting process, the mission and function of journalism. That must change also, I agree. Still, don't you want someone watching your police board? Your school board? Your park commission? I do.
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    Karen - I think we are in complete agreement. I also believe that the outcomes the service of journalism is supposed to create - accountability and transparency - are valuable. Consequently, I think we'll ultimately find a solution to the challenge (it may be more structural than we imagine). And it may not involve having someone in a parks board meeting reporting on the events, but something will emerge. Our point here is that we just aren't sure it will be the newspaper - nor, for democracy's sake, does it have to be.
  • John McIntyre · 9 months ago
    "Newspapers are not a precondition for democracy—free speech is. This is why the constitution protects the latter and not the former. "

    I had been under the impression that the First Amendment read that Congress must not pass any law "abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press."
  • Vicki · 9 months ago
    "The press" does not have to mean the traditional newspaper. It can apply to books. It can apply to the Internet.

    The Founding Fathers may only have had Gutenberg's press to refer to but they weren't stupid.
  • John McIntyre · 9 months ago
    Of course the protection extends to other media. I was simply pointing out that, despite Mr. Eaves' sweeping statement, newspapers do in fact have a specific constitutional protection. If he wants his argument to be heeded, he might take greater care not to make statements so easily challenged on factual grounds, particularly after sneering at other people's hyperbole.
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    John - thank you for the comment. Actually the statement is quite specific. We all - newspapers, bloggers, public speakers - enjoy the freedom of speech. This is not a right specific to newspapers.

    But this is besides the point. Your comment doesn't engage the thrust of our argument - that the constitution does not state that the news media (or even journalism for that matter) is necessary for democracy. It says that freedom of speech is. Yes, newspapers enjoy that freedom - like the rest of us - but that doesn't mean they are necessary.
  • John McIntyre · 9 months ago
    I don't want to quibble, but the point is that the Constitution says that everyone enjoys freedom of speech, and then adds a specific provision to include journalism. If a universal right of freedom of speech sufficed to include "newspapers, bloggers, public speakers," it would not have been necessary to add "or of the press." The authors of the First Amendment singled out two institutions, the church and the press, for specific protection to preserve our freedoms.

    As to your broader argument, I can speak, as a working newspaper journalist for nearly 30 years, of endless brain-dead corporate decisions and the publication of appallingly stupid and shoddy prose. The collapse of the newspaper industry has a pronouncedly self-inflicted element.

    That apart, I'm afraid that I'm dubious about your glowing hopes for the new democratic age. As a copy editor, I have been fighting a rear-guard action these 30 years to ensure that the newspapers for which I worked published rpose that was factually accurate and clear. What newspapers offer is information that someone has made an attempt to verify. The uncertainty of verification is what leaves me suspicious of many blogs, Internet site, Wikipedia entries, and other manifestations of the New Order. "Messy like democracy" glosses over this point. To make informed decisions, people need reliable information.
  • David Eaves · 9 months ago
    John - thank you for the comment. My understanding is that the constitution doesn't protect the "practice of journalism" it protects the right of "the press" - by which was meant to be the right for people to write, publish and print, free speech. I don't believe the press is the constitution is not a reference to journalists and journalism. Moreover, I don't think America's founding fathers had a notion that Fox News, CNN, or the New York Times was necessary for democracy - what was necessary was that a population had a way to speak to one another and exchange views, independently of the state. Our contention is that such a system will probably emerge without newspapers (and that it is already emergent).

    Perhaps the news industry's collapse is self-inflicted, but I suspect some strong structural forces are at play. Moreover, I'm sure some big players may survive (and possible evolve beyond recognition). More exciting is the new players will emerge. As Steven Johnson argues, I think we'll back in 30 years and see a written media that is richer, more diverse and healthier than the one today. We just can't imagine what it looks like.

    That said, no one is arguing that there is going to be a glowing democratic utopia - just that the future is going to look different, better in many ways, possibly worse in others. Democracy, however, isn't going to collapse if newspapers disappear. That was the offensive and specific claim we were targeting.
  • Norman Farrell · 9 months ago
    David Sirota writing this week in Salon says, in part:

    "While technological and economic forces certainly battered newspapers, journalism also delivered a one-two punch to its own jaw.

    First, financially strapped newspapers undermined their comparative advantage by replacing audience-attracting local exclusives with cheaper national content. Then, the providers of that national content diverted resources from tough-to-report investigative journalism that builds loyal readership and into paparazzi-like birdcage liner that unconvincingly portrays politicians, CEOs and their minions as celebrities.

    The most preventable tragedy was the deterioration of quality. Downsized local publications were all but forced to rely on more national content, but that content didn't have to become so vapid."
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    Sirota is speaking of the USA, with an eye particularly on Washington DC. He is a progressive voice who was a steady and effective critic of the Republican administration. I agree that newspapers have been damaged severely by decline of quality local content. Radio broadcasting is the same. Spreading common content across a chain is understandably desirable for the operators but does not serve the consumer well.
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