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Re: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

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Re: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

club penguin — Sun, 24 May 2009 20:38:06 -0000

Someone who has been in an "open" organisation for a while will have been bitten by being open and will therefore deliberately keep secret things that may have been open before. However they may also consciously publish conversations that may have previously accidentally happened in private.

Re: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

Jon Stahl — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:06:31 -0000

Thanks for sharing this... elegant and insightful

Re: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

sohbet — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:59:35 -0000

Thank you very much for this information.

Re: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

ditrain — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:41:05 -0000

Ian, thank you for the comment. I completely agree and hope there isn't anything in my piece to suggest otherwise. Indeed, both the line you sited and this line "Critically, I also think that those in quadrant 2 or 3 are often measuring open differently then those in quadrant 4 - who because of their boards and/or stakeholders, hold themselves to a very high bar" were written to affirm that those who have been in open based organization longer, are probably acting more "open" but hold themselves to a higher standard than those in quad 1,2 or 3. So I think we're in vigorous agreement!

Re: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

Ian Thomas (thelem) — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:42:35 -0000

I think the key sentance in the above is:

"Obviously definitions of “open” and “how open” one is was up to each participant"

I think someone who has recently joined an "open" organisation will have ideals about being open, and see openness in what they and their colleagues do. Someone who has been in an "open" organisation for a while will have been bitten by being open and will therefore deliberately keep secret things that may have been open before. However they may also consciously publish conversations that may have previously accidentally happened in private (say, around the water cooler). They are also more used to their peers being open, and therefore more aware of the things that they are hiding themselves.

To conclude, I don't think it is reasonable to say that someone who has been in an open organisation for a longtime is likely to be less open than someone who has just joined the same organisation unless you base that on more than just their own opinion